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	<title>Comments on: Fidelity and Schwab Introduce Credit Cards Linked to Brokerage Accounts</title>
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		<title>By: Doug Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.cinsightblog.com/2008/12/12/fidelity-and-schwab-introduce-credit-card-products-linked-to-brokerages/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon --

Unfortunately, it seems that Fidelity is not being very forthcoming about when credit card transaction information will be available for download into Quicken. Lots of times financial firms are a bit coy with release dates for site upgrades and new capabilities in order to manage clients' expectations about how soon something will be done, as well as because seemingly simple things (e.g., downloadable access to credit card data) can sometimes turn out to be a lot harder on the back end then consumers like to think they should be. Regardless, if Fidelity has a time table for this functionality -- aside from it being 'in the works' -- they are keeping it to themselves.

One thing that is important to remember is that though the Fidelity card is branded AmEx, it's not a traditional American Express card. Instead, it's a card with transactions processed on the AmEx network, much the way that the Fidelity Investment Rewards Signature card is on the Visa network. While this means that card holders have access to many of the American Express travel features and otehr network benefits, they aren't guarenteed the same level of connectivity or private site capability as they would see with an AmEx-issued card, such as the Blue or Green card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it seems that Fidelity is not being very forthcoming about when credit card transaction information will be available for download into Quicken. Lots of times financial firms are a bit coy with release dates for site upgrades and new capabilities in order to manage clients&#8217; expectations about how soon something will be done, as well as because seemingly simple things (e.g., downloadable access to credit card data) can sometimes turn out to be a lot harder on the back end then consumers like to think they should be. Regardless, if Fidelity has a time table for this functionality &#8212; aside from it being &#8216;in the works&#8217; &#8212; they are keeping it to themselves.</p>
<p>One thing that is important to remember is that though the Fidelity card is branded AmEx, it&#8217;s not a traditional American Express card. Instead, it&#8217;s a card with transactions processed on the AmEx network, much the way that the Fidelity Investment Rewards Signature card is on the Visa network. While this means that card holders have access to many of the American Express travel features and otehr network benefits, they aren&#8217;t guarenteed the same level of connectivity or private site capability as they would see with an AmEx-issued card, such as the Blue or Green card.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.cinsightblog.com/2008/12/12/fidelity-and-schwab-introduce-credit-card-products-linked-to-brokerages/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the Fidelity Card for my daughter's 529 plan and it is great I think.  One glitch is that when trying to pull the credit card data into Quicken to analyze where money is being spent, that service is not yet available from FIA Card Services, but I was told that it is "in the works."  Do you have any idea of when that migth be?

Having previously been an AMEX Blue card holder, and very impressed by their online services, I would imagine that this woudl be well on it way.  Your thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the Fidelity Card for my daughter&#8217;s 529 plan and it is great I think.  One glitch is that when trying to pull the credit card data into Quicken to analyze where money is being spent, that service is not yet available from FIA Card Services, but I was told that it is &#8220;in the works.&#8221;  Do you have any idea of when that migth be?</p>
<p>Having previously been an AMEX Blue card holder, and very impressed by their online services, I would imagine that this woudl be well on it way.  Your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: this could be controversial</title>
		<link>http://www.cinsightblog.com/2008/12/12/fidelity-and-schwab-introduce-credit-card-products-linked-to-brokerages/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>this could be controversial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically, this is a money back which falls into category of income.
However in reality this is quite just a discount on what people spent, not an additional earning.

i hope cashback cc companies could clarify this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically, this is a money back which falls into category of income.<br />
However in reality this is quite just a discount on what people spent, not an additional earning.</p>
<p>i hope cashback cc companies could clarify this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.cinsightblog.com/2008/12/12/fidelity-and-schwab-introduce-credit-card-products-linked-to-brokerages/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 06:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted these are new programs, but do you anticipate a tax implication of the "free money" deposited into a brokerage account?  In other words, are they going to report the reward to the IRS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted these are new programs, but do you anticipate a tax implication of the &#8220;free money&#8221; deposited into a brokerage account?  In other words, are they going to report the reward to the IRS?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.cinsightblog.com/2008/12/12/fidelity-and-schwab-introduce-credit-card-products-linked-to-brokerages/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Jeffry's question: "How is 2% cash back (deposited into an investment account” any different than a “return as ‘cash back’?"

The basic differentiator between many different rewards cards is simply the vector through which rewards are provided or redeemed. For more traditional "cash back" cards, such as the AmEx Blue card, rewards are supplied either as a statement credit or as a check mailed to the card holder, which can then be literally exchanged for cash. These two types of redemptions are what we tend to consider a "cash back return." Unlike the AmEx Blue card, the two new cards from Fidelity and Schwab funnel rewards directly into brokerage accounts set-up with the sponsoring firm and linked directly to the card. We consider that to be a different style of reward than cash back, as converting the reward to a cash equivalent is not automatic (i.e., statement credit) or easy (i.e., check). While these different types of programs might functionally deliver similar rewards value, the psychology of the rewards programs linked to a different account -- and possibly the back side administrative costs -- are different than traditional cash back cards. At least to our minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Jeffry&#8217;s question: &#8220;How is 2% cash back (deposited into an investment account” any different than a “return as ‘cash back’?&#8221;</p>
<p>The basic differentiator between many different rewards cards is simply the vector through which rewards are provided or redeemed. For more traditional &#8220;cash back&#8221; cards, such as the AmEx Blue card, rewards are supplied either as a statement credit or as a check mailed to the card holder, which can then be literally exchanged for cash. These two types of redemptions are what we tend to consider a &#8220;cash back return.&#8221; Unlike the AmEx Blue card, the two new cards from Fidelity and Schwab funnel rewards directly into brokerage accounts set-up with the sponsoring firm and linked directly to the card. We consider that to be a different style of reward than cash back, as converting the reward to a cash equivalent is not automatic (i.e., statement credit) or easy (i.e., check). While these different types of programs might functionally deliver similar rewards value, the psychology of the rewards programs linked to a different account &#8212; and possibly the back side administrative costs &#8212; are different than traditional cash back cards. At least to our minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffry Pilcher</title>
		<link>http://www.cinsightblog.com/2008/12/12/fidelity-and-schwab-introduce-credit-card-products-linked-to-brokerages/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffry Pilcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding this paragraph: &lt;strong&gt;"Instead of offering clients points towards merchandise or a percentage return as “cash back,” the Fidelity Retirement Rewards and Schwab Bank Invest First cards each reward clients with 2% back on all spending – money which is then deposited directly into an investment account at the firm."&lt;/strong&gt;

How is 2% cash back (deposited into an investment account" any different than a "return as 'cash back'?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding this paragraph: <strong>&#8220;Instead of offering clients points towards merchandise or a percentage return as “cash back,” the Fidelity Retirement Rewards and Schwab Bank Invest First cards each reward clients with 2% back on all spending – money which is then deposited directly into an investment account at the firm.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>How is 2% cash back (deposited into an investment account&#8221; any different than a &#8220;return as &#8216;cash back&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
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